Mark over at Pseudo-Polymath has a question for Sola Scriptura adherents. He names a variety of doctrines and asks how does a Sola Scriptura adherent decide what is in bounds and what is out of bounds.
Generally, I expect to find that someone who trusts the New Testament accounts will believe a thing if Scripture teaches it, disbelieve it if Scripture teaches against it, and is open to discussion and even varying opinions if Scripture is silent or is not explicit. In those "gray area" cases, if an early and unanimous opinion exists among the early church fathers I would expect to give that opinion the benefit of the doubt without quite holding it with the same certainty as Scripture. That's why we (Lutherans) hold to the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist (Scripture teaches it) but not to transubstantiation, and why most of us do not hold to Mary's perpetual virginity though some do.
I don't think this next was your main question, but I think the quote from Pelikan had an interesting salvo. He implied that the usual explanation for the Scripture "The Father is greater than I" amounted to "manipulation of the Scriptures". I have to agree on this much: the usual explanation of that is disappointing at least and may even cross the line to manipulation of Scripture. That particular text is often explained away as meaning that when Christ acknowledges the Father as greater he does so "according to his human nature"; yet when else is he said to speak according to human nature alone? I have always believed this interpretation to be an unnecessary and possibly misleading move. To speak in Trinitarian language, the Father is the only member of the Trinity who has no other origin but is self-existing; the Word and the Spirit both derive from the Father. "The Father is greater than I" seems a natural thing to say even for a Trinitarian: that the Word, Christ, has his origin in the Father but the Father alone is self-existing. As the self-existing source of the Son, the Father is greater than the Son. Now I will also speak bluntly: I think that such a questionable exegetical move was mainly made to defend the Trinitarian formula. I consider some parts of the Trinitarian formula to be an intellectual syncretism between the revelation of God and Greek philosophy. I know "intellectual syncretism" may be seen by some as fighting words, so let me explain what I mean. The relationship between Father, Son, and Spirit is not cleanly understood or expressed with complete clarity in the common formulas used for the Trinity. Granted that nobody has yet done better expressing the nature of God using the categories of Greek philosophy, and the standard Trinitarian formula may well be the cleanest fit possible between the nature of God and Greek philosophy. Still, certain things we know about God seem to have been squeezed a little bit to fit into those categories, and it has created a tension in Christian theology ever since. I expect the day will come when we Christians rethink the Trinity in terms more native to Scripture and that, when complete, we will still have the Trinity but not one so determined to see things through the lenses of ancient Greek thought categories. At the time the Trinity was formulated, much of the Christian world was still deeply enamored of Greek philosophy, and may have overestimated Greek philosophy's capabilities towards expressing the realities of God. Until such a day as we retool our understanding of the Trinity to go beyond that kind of intellectual syncretism, certain passages of Scripture will show their tension with how God has been fit into those pre-existing schools of thought.
Actually, almost the reverse is true: those early Fathers gave Greek philosophy a MAJOR overhaul to make IT fit Christian revelation.
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If the overhaul had been enough, then why do people still "manipulate" Scripture (Pelikan's words) to make it fit?
ReplyDeleteThe individualistic nature has the Catholic antagonist's biases frontloaded into it. Answering the question at all accepts the implicit charge of individualism. Furthermore it sets up a trap so that the questioner can say at any turn, "Aha, but other adherents of the same principle disagree with you on this point! Therefore, the Scripture cannot serve as a basis of doctrine!" The weakness of the question can be shown by flipping it around:
ReplyDeleteHow does an adherent of papal infallibility decide which declarations are and which aren't infallible, and which interpretations are and aren't out of bounds?
Alternatively:
How does an adherent of the infallibility of Orthodox Tradition decide what is and isn't valid Orthodox Tradition?
Both questions when posed in such an individualistic manner are just as unanswerable as the sola scriptura question above, because no matter where our Orthodox or Catholic friend turns, he will always find some equally devout Orthodox or Catholic person who disagrees with him, thus dying by his own sword.
Hi Josh
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Well, sure, the question had biases frontloaded into it (Eastern Orthodox, in this case). But the guy I'm trading posts with is friendly enough, so I'll skip the reciprocal setup ... ;)
Myself, I'm awfully comfortable with where I stand, it's withstood a whole lot more rigorous tests than anything being thrown at me in a friendly conversation, so I don't have any misgivings about defending it even if someone sends loaded questions my way.
Josh,
ReplyDeleteI'm answering in more detail back at my blog, but the question is, I think, not individualistic but one addressed to community. And, it might be noted that the question wasn't mine, but Pelikan's (a long time Lutheran theologian at Yale who late life, admittedly, converted to Orthodoxy). The point is, the "antagonist" in this case is not Catholic w.r.t. to Latera.
The question might be put, how does a Lutheran decide that Catholic doctrine (or Orthodox) is incorrect. And the question is necessarily more pointed at the the Protestant, as they are "protesting" to particulars of canon. All conciliar doctrine/canon manipulate Scripture. The question is how to describe a method to discern intra community not inter.