tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post2021000642482352626..comments2024-03-25T14:27:40.121-05:00Comments on Heart, Mind, Soul, and Strength: What is the sin of "adultery in the heart"?Weekend Fisherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10425001168670801073noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-38137393002909186872008-09-05T06:31:00.000-05:002008-09-05T06:31:00.000-05:00I must've missed the story of the camel and th...I must've missed the story of the camel and the tent ... <BR/><BR/>I noticed you mentioning before that you used to be Muslim. For how many years were you in Islam? <BR/><BR/>Take care & God bless<BR/>Anne / WFWeekend Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10425001168670801073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-85219497175131677712008-09-04T22:31:00.000-05:002008-09-04T22:31:00.000-05:00Interesting note: Mohammad got around the issue of...Interesting note: Mohammad got around the issue of "deliberate" and "accidental" lust with a general rule. He said, "The first look is forgivable, the second is haram." Basically if you look at someone with lust at first but quickly realize the error of your way, you're OK, but if you keep staring with lust you're in trouble. <BR/><BR/>Of course, this comes across as a bit like you're compromising with your sins, which is the wrong thing to do. Remember the story of the camel and the tent.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232209481041145155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-22984749778023054202008-09-04T20:57:00.000-05:002008-09-04T20:57:00.000-05:00Hi DrewI'm betting that, when the veils come o...Hi Drew<BR/><BR/>I'm betting that, when the veils come off at the end of the ages, I'll be shocked at how much I was still trapped in sin I never saw or recognized. Idolatry is so natural. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by. <BR/><BR/>Take care & God bless<BR/>Anne / WFWeekend Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10425001168670801073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-37406926463953688482008-09-04T20:56:00.000-05:002008-09-04T20:56:00.000-05:00Hi PSI get overcome by obsessions sometimes, but I...Hi PS<BR/><BR/>I get overcome by obsessions sometimes, but I'm more likely to be obsessive about work -- you know, a respectable obsession (not to say any healthier). Or competitive; I've got a wicked competitive streak that made me (really) intolerable, I think, before I became aware of it and started toning it down. I think it's all the same thing as far as "disordered desire" goes.Weekend Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10425001168670801073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-37160297832099714702008-09-04T14:44:00.000-05:002008-09-04T14:44:00.000-05:00I blogged about this a few weeks ago here.I think ...I blogged about this a few weeks ago <A HREF="http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2008/08/24/adultery-friendship-and-boundaries/" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>I think that this, with so much of what Jesus is teaching us, has to do with idolatry - how not to follow those things that stand in the way of loving God and neighbor. This is why the direction of the heart's motivation is so key for him since that is the source of life. So I think that it is beyond temptation here, but the removal of the boundary between a physical action and the intentions of the heart that is key.Drew Tatuskohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12344192935890766744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-74656466048195372452008-09-04T12:59:00.000-05:002008-09-04T12:59:00.000-05:00I didn't just want a van because it would be pract...I didn't just want a van because it would be practical for my family, which it was, but I would be jealous when I'd see another family with a van. My feelings were way beyond normal "wanting."<BR/><BR/>I've has a few times in my life when I've gone way out of my way to obtain a material object only later to have no real interest in it, in fact, in two cases I can think of, I haven't even used the things at all. This isn't about the cost, which was about $30, but about some kind of desire that came over me to own these things and then go to about a dozen stores to find them.<BR/><BR/>To get back to the lust aspect, is that what happens to people who seek out sexual encounters with women of the street or "escorts" when these same people could probably easily lure the woman in the next office. <BR/><BR/>Now, I haven't been in THOSE circumstances, so I can't speak to those feelings at all.LoieJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01977264499770654307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-31324147199248379152008-09-04T12:20:00.000-05:002008-09-04T12:20:00.000-05:00Hi thereI don't know when wanting a van is &qu...Hi there<BR/><BR/>I don't know when wanting a van is "coveting" it. Usually "coveting" comes up for something that isn't a rightful object of desire -- like a neighbor's van. Maybe all "inordinate desires" as the ancients said count as some kind of coveting. But I doubt that there would be any cosmic payback; I guess the difference between karma and divine justice is whether there is a thinking, willing, loving God deciding and/or forgiving ... <BR/><BR/>Anyway, hope you enjoyed the van. :)<BR/><BR/>Take care & God bless<BR/>Anne / WFWeekend Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10425001168670801073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-6345786276194812822008-09-04T08:21:00.000-05:002008-09-04T08:21:00.000-05:00Lust is a form of coveting...This could easily be ...Lust is a form of coveting...<BR/><BR/>This could easily be generalized to include much of the materialism in our culture. Then we could, for example, cite TV ads as bringing temptation into our living rooms. And, yes, we are open to this temptation because our culture teaches us to be so.<BR/><BR/>I used to covet owning a van. I finally got one. I thought that might come back to bring some destruction to me because of my coveting it. We did have two accidents with that van, but I'm not blaming God for that.<BR/><BR/>I hope I'm not cheapening your thoughts. I think you did a good job explaining it.LoieJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01977264499770654307noreply@blogger.com