tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post4305232691374700550..comments2024-03-25T14:27:40.121-05:00Comments on Heart, Mind, Soul, and Strength: Worst gospel presentation ever?Weekend Fisherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10425001168670801073noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-37547677748986422062009-05-11T14:02:00.000-05:002009-05-11T14:02:00.000-05:00Anne wrote:
"yes, that God loves his creation, and...Anne wrote:<br />"yes, that God loves his creation, and that the world is redeemed by his love. These are core things -- yet somehow we fail to present them as core things in our gospel presentations".<br /><br />I think that's due to nearly twenty centuries of dualistic 'leavening' of the truth, coupled with our sad propensity to legalism instead of grace - a pretty lethal cocktail. No wonder the Gospel is still viewed as dangerous as when Jesus first shook the world.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13707181627588121525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-14814264355565056282009-05-10T22:20:00.000-05:002009-05-10T22:20:00.000-05:00I think the thing that frustrates me the most is h...I think the thing that frustrates me the most is how often the "gospel" is presented in such a way as to make God sound like an unreasonable, capricious, and vengeful being with a perverted sense of justice. <br /><br />Tony-Allen, I'm not familiar with the Way of the Master methodology but your digest of it sounds really horrific. The kind of theology that makes you want to ask, "Which way to the nearest exit?" <br /><br />Howard -- yes, that God loves his creation, and that the world is redeemed by his love. These are core things -- yet somehow we fail to present them as core things in our gospel presentations. <br /><br />Take care & God bless<br />Anne / WFWeekend Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10425001168670801073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-33089100618409078892009-05-09T12:48:00.000-05:002009-05-09T12:48:00.000-05:00"Worst gospel presentation ever?"
Yes. Yes, it is..."Worst gospel presentation ever?"<br /><br />Yes. Yes, it is.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06680367700762008875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-72084454003594177072009-05-09T03:02:00.000-05:002009-05-09T03:02:00.000-05:00It's pretty amazing how far off we can be when we ...It's pretty amazing how far off we can be when we engage with this subject. We need to begin by understanding that God loves His creation, and has acted to convey that to a world corrupted by sin - a world which will be redeemed by that love. God is involved in reconciling us. Condemnation is the status of those who chose to stay in darkness and murder the light, who reject God's mercy and His love.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13707181627588121525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15860677.post-27459450097041109672009-05-08T20:07:00.000-05:002009-05-08T20:07:00.000-05:00That's a problem I always had with the Way of the ...That's a problem I always had with the Way of the Master methodology. They in essence tell the person, "You're a sinner, you deserve to die, God hates you," then say, "Oh but good news, accept Jesus Christ and you're A-OK!" To me this is another version of solo fide, the corrupt version of sola fide. While sola fide is a living faith (ie what James wrote about), solo fide just says, "Oh, believe in Jesus and don't worry about anything else!" <br /><br />Of course this kind of testimony rests on shaky ground, and proved its weakness when Todd Friel tried to convert a learned rabbi who blew his methodology out of the water by turning to examples of forgiveness in the Old Testament.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232209481041145155noreply@blogger.com